What it Takes to Get a Passport
posted on march 11, 2004, tag: new york
I stood in line for an hour and a half to get my picture taken and then, after waiting an additional half-hour, I paid $9.50 and received a piece of paper. The lady told me I would receive my New York State ID card in two to three weeks. Confused as to why I didn't get it right away, since they took my picture, had all my information, just had to fucking print it, I was told they handled all processing in Albany. Fine.
Two weeks later I received my ID. I'm not sure where they got the photo they printed on the card, because I don't remember having a black eye and doing what appears to be at least 20 lines of cocaine. None the less, I had a valid photo ID with my signature, and that was the last piece I needed to apply for a passport. I took my birth certificate, social security card, photo ID and self to the US Post Office on Canal Street in Manhattan.
I stood in line for 25 minutes. I was then told by the woman in booth 6 to go to booth 20. I stood in line for 5 minutes. I was told by the man in booth 20 to go to booth 16. I waited for 5 minutes. Finally, the booth opened and the postal clerk asked me for all of my information. He looked at the form and then asked me for my birth certificate and driver's license. I told him I didn't have one, I only had a photo ID, and please ignore the fact that I appear as a zombie in the photo. He told me he couldn't accept it.
Apparently, in the United States, one cannot get a passport without a valid driver's license. If you do not have said license, you have to bring someone with you who will sign, in the presence of a postal clerk, an affidavit stating they have known you for two years. That person must have a valid driver's license and be a citizen.
Confused as to why my photo ID—which has my vital information, photo and signature—was less valid than a driver's license—whose only addition would be the fact that I could parallel park a car on cue and pass a written test—I asked the clerk why there was a difference. He said, "You see, in America, if you have a driver's license, you can drive in every state." I agreed—it's true—but asked what that had to do with anything. "But a New York State photo ID," he continued, "is only valid in New York." I was going to disagree, since I can use my New York ID to buy alcohol in New Jersey, but before I had a chance the clerk said, "With the New York ID you're only a citizen of New York, with a driver's license you're a citizen of the whole United States. Even Alaska."
I was baffled. I countered with an onslaught of short, angry sentences like, "You're telling me I'm a citizen if I have a driver's license?" and "What does Alaska have to do with me getting my damned passport?" The clerk was upset that I was upset, and he told me it was not a big deal—I could bring someone with me who had the proper identification and they could sign for me. I said something about how ridiculous it was that I, a natural born United States citizen, who had never lived outside the country, who had his birth certificate, social security card and photo ID, couldn't get a passport because I wasn't licensed to drive and yet any idiot who could pass a driver's test and forge a birth certificate could. The clerk was noticeably upset and kept saying, "I don't make the rules, it's not me."
So I didn't get my passport. Tomorrow Katia and I have to go to a post office together and she has to sign an affidavit so that I, a natural born citizen of the US, can get a passport. She being a Russian-born woman who is now a naturalized US citizen and has lived in two other countries, who got her US passport years ago by providing her proof-of-citizenship, even though she didn't have a driver's license.
I don't have proof of citizenship. I was born here and I have always been a citizen. There's no proof of that. But apparently the closest thing is being able to steer a Buick.
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Stew on 03/12/2004:
Same thing happened with me over here in the UK.
To get a passport you can either send away your birth certificate and fill out a HUGE form (like a minimum of 28 pages which ask the same damn question!) or you can pay double and do it at pretty much any post office.
Naturally I want it done now so I go into my post office and I hand over my ID:
1x Birth Certificate
1 x Old Passport (now invalid as I turned 17 2 weeks after I got and paid for my previous one!)
1x Drivers Licensce (Provisional as I have not yet passed my test but I can drive as long as I have someone in the car who has)
Now for some strange reason they wont accept an invalid passport and a provisional license however if I had a full licensce I wouldn't even need my old passport even though my information is in teh central database and it only requires a reprint card with validity changed.... stupid damn post office!
Paul Mison on 03/12/2004:
According to the atrociously-formatted http://travel.state.gov/passport_obtain.html you can provide a 'current, valid
Driver's license
Government ID: city, state or federal
Military ID: military and dependents'
If the NY state ID doesn't count as Government ID, I'm not sure why not. Perhaps you got a wonky clerk.
Garrett on 03/12/2004:
Actually, Paul, that's exactly what I thought going in. Unfortunately, that means an ID you get when you work for the government. No dice.
Jonathan on 03/12/2004:
That's insane! Sometimes I just don't understand our government/state regulations/laws. A few months ago I needed to go the Pennsylvania Department of Transportation to re-new my drivers license. I went in, picked a number, and 5 minutes later had my brand spankin' new drivers license.
On the other hand, I was trying to my taxes last year and thought I would save time by doing them online. Well, apparantly I needed a special code that didn't come with my tax information to file my taxes online. The only way to get this code is by doing your taxes online the previous year. Not sure how they expected me to do that.
Chris on 03/13/2004:
That's just regoddamndiculous.
Next thing you know, they'll be requiring pilot licenses for citizenship. Now if that isn't a problem I don't know what is...
Franklin on 03/13/2004:
I hate to sound like an ad, but... Worth every single penny: I.E.S
The company is International Express Services, LLC. They're a travel document expediter. For $150, which I would gladly pay again to avoid having a story like yours to tell, I had my passport FedEx-ed to me the next day. Check and see if there is an office or a similar company near you, and guarantee you'll only spend five minutes more getting a passport.
Richard on 03/14/2004:
Garrett, just curious, where ya going? You might want to make sure you don't need a visa too, or shots or whatever.
I highly recommend that you get a decent mug shot made for your passport. The less hassle at borders the better and if it doesn't look like you, the person asking may not speak English all that well.
I agree re: the State Department web site for passport applications and renewals. I had to renew mine 6 months ago and found the tables stupidly misleading. Once I got it and sent in my old one, the form, a new picture, and the money they turned it around in 2 weeks which is pretty good for a US Government operation.
yesman namsey on 04/24/2004:
5 years ago I applied for a passport at my local post office and 3 weeks later recieved a letter asking me where my grammer school was and who was the principal then and a billion different questions —————-It seemed to be a bit of overkill
Barry Flinstoniac on 05/04/2004:
Shave the pits.
ladythunder on 07/28/2004:
I applied for my passport via the post-office July 2, for a trip to Jamaica July 31. it is July 28, and still no blue passport in teh mail. Two weeks after sending in my stuff I get a letter asking me for proof that I've lived here for over 5 years. I sent them EVERYTHING I had down to my library card. and nothing, I feel that Al Quada operatives can get passports easier than US Citizen. I've pleaded with them to send me Citizenship Certificate, and nothing happening on that front, it takes two weeks for them to abandon a application. Im livid.
I want to just leave on my much needed and already paid for vacation and deal with the consequences after.